SEPA Report Showing End-Market Demand Disconnect Could Sink First Solar, SunPower

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  Wayfarer

  Jul 25 10:58 AM
  Anybody believe that ITC will only be given to utilities? The natural location for PV is rooftops because real estate and distribution costs are minimal. I don't believe are government is stupid enough rule that ITC does not go to home owners.
  
  This is another anonymous piece that should be ignored.
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  jzig

  Jul 25 05:40 PM
  a "notably" bad call
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  huerix

  Jul 25 06:19 PM
  The paradigm shift is the one away from the utilities into consumer owned SUSTAINABLE forms of energy. I have never seen so much progress in the world of solar. SEPA can try hard, but we are sick of getting bent over a barrel by the utilities- after years of rate increases, pollution, blackouts, Enron, etc., we are MORE than ready for a change. We are DRIVEN with a passionate hatred for the likes of PG+E.
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  MJ
  Pragmatist

  Jul 25 07:02 PM
  15% cost reductions seem well within reach. With the exception of material costs, manufacturing costs are coming down and solar efficiency is increasing. Once the supply can catch up with demand, material costs, and overall solar costs, should decrease significantly.
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  buystocks

  Jul 26 03:51 AM
  Chinese manufacturers have cost advantages on the labors, also thin film largely and mostly can only apply to free field installation.
  
  I would vote for TSL.
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  CLH

  Jul 26 07:49 AM
  As oil sinks the solar and wind boon doggles will disappear. The small amount of energy these power sources provide have only one purpose---making the greenies feel good.
  
  Lets build nuclear plants!!!
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  nprfreak

  Jul 26 09:45 AM
  A valid concern for investors in the short term. However, I hold out some hope that state and federal policies might shift to at least put local energy production on par with centralized production. You can't get much more local than your home or business. With some attention to conservation, these smaller locations may be more likely to produce more energy than they consume. Or at least, the capitalist ideal of parties taking actions that are in their own best interests, the owners should strive for that goal.
  
  Personally, I think solar PV is a poor choice for centralized utility power production. Solar thermal makes much more sense for utility-scale installations, in part because of the stored (heat) energy characteristics that allow for a gradual production decline at sunset.
  
  On the comment about the price of oil, solar stocks may be becoming untied from that. Solar is to replace coal, not oil. Mining and burning coal is an so many ways a bigger environmental threat.
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  User 10755

  Jul 26 10:54 AM

  My Website
  Recently if you haven't noticed there's been such an all out PUSH to deflate Solar and the entire Alternative Energy growth sector for that matter..... why..... who's really behind this, and will they get what they want ???
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  supershort

  Jul 26 11:57 AM
  Noone is out there to "deflate" anything. It's just like any other bubble that is driven by people buying these stocks becuase it makes them feel good, like they are doing something for the environment. 99% of these investors have no intention of putting these panels in their homes and yet will berate those who criticise the profitability and the fundamentals of these companies and their absurd P/E ratios. I am environmentally conscious, but I will not make a bad investment, meaning I cannot go long SPWR, or FSLR.
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  dslnbull

  Jul 26 12:10 PM
  Please take a minute and let the SEC and your reps know that you are aware of the BS.
  
  If you care about this issue, NOW is the time to speak up!
  
  www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/ru......
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  User 10755

  Jul 26 12:44 PM

  My Website
  dsnlebull
  
  Thank you... I will complain to the SEC, as I did few weeks ago regarding Naked Shorting and the Restoring Uptick Rule...
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  Road Runner

  Jul 26 10:38 PM
  supershort and CLH, You 2, like many other people, are missing the mega-trend here. The government just put out a report that says that energy use in the US will increase by 50% by 2030. That's an amazingly large number. That means that all new sources of evergy will need to be used - wind and concentrating solar and PV solar and nuclear and natural gas and offshore oil and oil sands and oil shale and coal and bio-fuels. In the next few decades we can't even talk about one evergy source replacing another.
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  supershort

  Jul 28 12:15 PM
  Dsnlebul, User10755, and Roadrunner.
  
  You should complain about the amount of naked shorting and the uptick rule. First of all the reason there are "naked Shorts" is because when an institution or market maket itself has a large amount of shares it has taken long, it doesn't want to lose so they won't let the shares be borrowed. That is inflating the price artificially, plain and simple. They are not allowing "free market pricing." If you can make an investment for 100% of shares to go long, then 100% of the shares should be allowed to go short. Period. That is true pricing and true free markets, not government sponsored interference so some boneheads who took positions for a "just cause" and feel that they should not lose money are bailed out. Where is SEC when these analysits pump up INTEL, JDSU, CSCO, BRDM which I have long positions on and they are all down? Where are my complaints being heard? That is the BS of the system. The shorts keep the market honest. They are the ones who we need plain and simple.
  
  I am a "greenie" myself, so much that even my wife thinks I am nuts with all the recycling, poer saving appliances, turning off lights, keeping the home a few degrees cooler or warmer to conserve energy. I also do research and feel that CNG and Nuclear will be a bigger part of the world's energy needs. Solar in it's present form is just a fad. So if you want to do something for the envirornment, plant a tree, turn off a light, recycle, be more energy conscious. And by the way, to the ones who are long...why haven't you guys bought panels yourselves? I have looked into it and it is a totally ludicrous investment, so I don't want my hard earned money going into this farce.
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  supershort

  Jul 28 12:18 PM
  Dsnlebul, User10755,
  
  Another thing, don't blame anyone for your mistakes. You enter a bad position, take your loss. Consider it your tuition for learning how to trade.
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  solar jim

  Aug 01 05:36 PM
  whoever was talking up TSL on labor costs doesn't really understand solar. The panel producers are mostly automated with very little labor. What lower labor costs exist in China are not enough to offset the lower technological capability of their pv panels on conversion efficiency and also total cost.